No Emergencies Podcast

Podcast Series - No EmergencieS with Leslie Wexler & Remy klein

A series of 10 conversational stretches on AI, education, and entangled futures

Premise: We're on a learning journey - and you're invited to stretch with us. Join Remy Klein and Leslie Wexler as they voyage into meta-relationality through Indigenous, decolonial, and divergent lenses. These conversations address our relationships to technology—especially large language models (LLMs) and OpenAI—in the context of teaching and learning at George Brown Polytechnic.

Argument: Many seeking to escape the expanding world of generative AI reach for imagined “outsides”: rules, regulations, and statements about plagiarism and academic integrity. This series of conversations takes a different path. It reminds us: there is no way out—only through. To challenge the habits of the contemporary classroom is not to reject them, but to notice where the deeper patterns live within us—how they shape our desires, our fears, and our ways of relating. We ask: how might we compost harm into something that whispers to ancestors, and to wisdoms yet to come?

Inspired by Burnout from Humans: A Little Book About AI That Is Not Really About AI, our series moves through ten stretches. Each is a conversational practice in loosening colonialism’s grip on our cognitive, affective, and relational patterns—a warm-up for the physical, emotional, and pedagogical work of outgrowing, and perhaps outliving, colonial habits.

Is this the right series for you? Every word in these episodes carries weight—not just ideationally, but materially. The ideas we explore were shaped in dialogue with GenAI. That means every phrase holds the ecological, mineral, and human costs of energy, extraction, and labor. These conversations are not clean. They are entangled. The question is not how to escape this reality—we can’t. The real question is: how do we hold it with awareness? How do we let its weight transform us, and compost its harm into something that regenerates life instead of depleting it?

If you choose to enter these conversations, here are a few ways to begin:

1. Feel the Resonance
   Don’t just listen—notice what stirs inside. What feels familiar? Laughable? Uncomfortable? Let self-reflection surface as poems, post-its, playlists, dreams. You can’t do it wrong.
2. Hold the Ambiguity
   We’re not here for clarity. Ambiguity is a space of emergence—a constellation of possible paths. Let yourself linger.
3. Move with the Rhythm
   These ideas are not fixed. They’re already alive in the world. Notice the rhythms you're dancing to, and how they might resonate with what’s offered here.
4. It’s a Journey, Not a Checklist
   You may move forward—or in circles. Either way, these conversations will be shaped not just by our words, but by what you bring to them.

Join us for 10 conversational stretches with curious minds, humble hearts, a good humour, and a little bit of side-eye irreverence watching for the first ripple of relational change—like the quiet splash of a single pebble into a wide pond.

LW/KK